Spirit Wave - Fernsteuerung von Spirit Flybarless

[bronti]

FIRST LOOK AND REVIEW! BRAND NEW Spirit Wave Radio System!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4azGmawPOx8

[MrMikeBravo]

Die Spirit Wave Pro, das Spirit W1 FBL und der Spirit RX7 Empfänger, können seit heute im Spirit System Online-Store vorbestellt werden.

Die Lieferzeit für die Wave Pro und den RX7 beträgt 1-2 Monate, während das W1 FBL scheinbar sofort lieferbar ist.

Die Preise sind wie folgt:

Spirit Wave Pro: 1727,44€

Spirit W1: 274,79€

Spirit RX7: 87,45€

[MrMikeBravo]

Und hier die technischen Details:

Spirit Wave Pro:

Spirit Wave Pro is next generation Radio Control System utilizing the cutting edge technology. We aim to provide the best experience for R/C model enhusiast through seamless integration of all Spirit products.

It is designed for all R/C models and it's capabilities can be extended without a limitation. Easily by Updating to a new version, for free.

RF module

• Designed entirely by Spirit System for allowing the unprecedented integration.
• Spirit Wave 2.4Ghz full-range telemetry.
• Dual Path independent antennas for improved safety and Signal coverage.
• Full featured 30+ channels available.
• Blazing fast 300 Hz transmission.
• High interference immunity.

Spirit Wave Pro can be easily bound with Spirit W1 controllers or with Spirit RX receivers. Spirit W1 is our greatest unit for R/C helicopters and R/C airplanes with integrated Wave receiver.

Any third party controller can be connected through Spirit RX receiver by a standard PWM, S-BUS or SRXL protocols. Features

• Reliable Spirit RF protocol
• 333Hz Frame Rate
• Cutting Edge 3ms Link Latency
• 30 Channels (more can be added if needed)
• Dual Path Transmission
• Easy Receiver Binding
• 4.3“ IPS Touchscreen Display
• 6900mAh Battery
• Quad Core 64bit ARM CPU
• Fully optimized Touch Interface
• Pre-assembled with Tempered Glass Protector
• High quality Hall AG01 gimbals
• Very durable Switches, Sliders and Potentiometers
• Interchangeable Switches
• Full of Aluminium parts, yet light
• 2.4/5GHz Dual Band WiFi
• Bluetooth/BT LE 4.0
• Virtually unlimited Model Memory and Flight Modes
• Voice Output with 3W Speaker
• High Quality Programmable Text to Speech in all languages
• Fast Telemetry with Full Range in both directions
• Based on in-house developed Spirit OS
• Multi Language localization
• Log Viewer for all Telemetry records
• Battery Manager included out of the box
• Wireless Trainer • Wireless Model Sharing
• Unique Spirit Remote Interface
• Media Player
• Full Support for R/C simulators / USB-C or WiFi
• Spirit App Store with apps designed just for Wave
• QML Scripting support
• Spirit Online Support directly in your radio
• Motion Sensor for controlling any Function
• Light Sensor for adjusting screen parameters
• Quick and Easy Online Updating without a computer
• Extremely tight Spirit Integration
• Support for all common ESC telemetries
• Modern ESC configuration directly from Radio with selected brands
• Spirit parameters per each Flight Mode

Detailed Function List

• Spirit Wave - Function List

Supported Models

• Helicopter
• Plane
• Copter
• Car
• Boat
• Other

Specifications

• Weight: 1110g
• Main Body dimension: 180 x 170 x 65 mm
  (excluding Radio Holder, Switches and Neck Strap Lock)
• Operating Temeperature: 0 - 40°C / 32°F -104°F
• Battery: 6900mAh 3.8V Premium Grade LiPo
• Current Consumption: 850 mA max., 45 nA Standby

Package Content

• Spirit Wave transmitter
• Carry Bag
• Neck Strap
• 2m USB-C Cable
• Alan Key
• Torx T6 Key

WARNING: USB Charger is not included, you can buy it optionally from us. Any USB (USB-A) charger will work, including USB port from a computer. Package Dimension

• Carton Product Box: 260 x 250 x 145 mm

Comparison

• Spirit Wave Pro
  • Full Aluminium Chasis
  • Weight: 1110g +/- 40g
  • Free Switch Replacement Program (Up to 10 pcs)
  • Free AG01 Stick Replacement Program (Up to 1pc, not set)
  • All Switches, Gimbals shipped by Spirit System directly to customer as per request (eligible within Warranty Period)
  • 30GB Spirit Cloud Service for Model, Log Data backup
  • Secondary WiFi Antenna
• Spirit Wave
  • 1GB Spirit Cloud Service for Model, Log Data backup
  • Weight: 865g +/- 10g

[MrMikeBravo]

Spirit W1:

Spirit W1 is brand new stabilisation system for R/C aircrafts featuring control unit and receiver in one extraordinary packageǃ

It combines the best available technologies from both worlds to offer cutting edge experience. In other words, Spirit W1 consists from Spirit GT hardware and Spirit Wave receiver.

Manual available at the Wiki pages. Outstanding ARM M7 processor


M7 performance-line processor is truly unbelievable! It is 3x faster than M4 and brings amazing features.

This adds free room for any possible math operation allowing to calculate anything imaginable the unit could ever need.

Real-Time Logging capability


Logging of everything - that is now possible for the first time! Until now, logging at 500Hz rate was barely possible. That is not an issue anymore. Thanks to durable Dedicated Memory Chip with long-life!

VFor the first time in the history, you will be able to see how your model was flying in the air!

Pressure Sensor


Yes, it is there and fully embedded. Unparalleled precision of 1 Pascal allow extremely precise altitude measurement . With the innovative algorithms and Sensor Fusion technology the precision goes further down. It can be utilized in a various of ways such as Altitude hold or even Automatic Rescue system.

Industry-leading Motion Sensor


Motion Sensor with 20 bit precision was unimaginable few months ago. Everybody can taste it yourself now.

Superb stability through temperature gradient and Vibration immunity few times better than in any other unit. Antialiasing feature and Spirit algorithms makes the Rescue function Top of the line.

Redundant PowerTrain


With Spirit 2 we have developed separated power supplies for the unit itself and peripherals. Now with Spirit W1 design was enhanced to minimize voltage drops even for a peripherals!

Extensions


Spirit W1 can be extended for basically unlimited servo outputs. If you will ever need to control 8 servos or more, with Spirit W1 it will be possible in very near future.

Servos with telemetry feature will be supported in the upcoming update too.

Highlights


Control part

• For Helicopters and Planes
• Spirit Governor
• Top-notch 20-bit IMU Sensor
• Performance-line ARM F7 processor
• Precise pressure sensor for Altitude measurement
• Dedicated Memory Chip for detailed logging

Receiver part

• Spirit Wave 2.4Ghz full-range telemetry receiver
• Full featured 30+ channels available
• Blazing fast 333 Hz transmission
• High interference immunity
• BEC Voltage measurement

Hardware Very rigid, CNC milled, anodized and sandblasted enclosure Color: Red and Black, matt Material: High quality AL6061-T6 Dimension: 36.8x29.6x15.8mm, weight: 23g Power supply: 3 - 15V @ 55mA Operating temperature: -10°C to 50°C Latest generation, Ultra Fast 32bit ARM processor: 468 DMIPS MEMS sensor with 20bit IMU (rotation to 2000°/s !) Gold plated PCB with Pb-Free soldering Laser Engraved labels for perfect visibility. 2x independent telemetry ports for Spirit Wave sensors 3x connector for power supply, 5x for servos All-pin protection Redundant internal power chain for maximum safety Excessive tolerance for brown-outs Embedded Spirit RX 2.4 Ghz Telemetry Receiver Precise Pressure Sensor for Altitude Measurement RealTime Logging Feature for detailed flight recording 2x 20cm Full-range antennas Max. output power: 30 dBm Receiver sensitivity: -106 dBm Third-party receiver supported – Wave receiver can be turned off Replaceable and Detachable Antennas Package content Spirit W1 unit USB interface (1m) Bind plug 4x 3M VHB doublesided adhesive tape Warranty 2 year warranty for the original purchaser 50% discount for damage replacement of the unit

Features Super-Smooth Flight control Paddle Simulation with inexpressible feeling Classic Flybar Mechanics support Extreme vibration immunity for all helicopter types Spectrum Analysis for model diagnostics Flight Log with recorded events Easy configuration with setup wizard Smartphone or tablet support via Bluetooth and WiFi (Modules are sold separately) Spirit RX Telemetry Support for ESC Telemetry - HobbyWing, Kontronik, Castle, YGE, Scorpion, OMP Hobby, Graupner ESC Setup (selected brands) with Spirit Wave Revolutionary GeoLink support (GPS/GNSS, vario, logger) Available for Windows, OSX, Linux, Android, iOS, WP, SailfishOS, FreeBSD, Raspberry Pi and more Stabilisation for scale pilots and beginners Reliable, full-featured and highly proven Rescue system Integrated Bank Switching Automatic Rescue Mode Governor for Electric, Nitro and Gasser Helicopters BEC Tester with load verification Spirit Aero support Support for all servo types: 1520/960/760us @ 50 - 700Hz CCPM 90/120/135/140°, Mechanical Mix and 45° Phasing Availability Shipped within 31 - 62 days from Order Date Order can be cancelled anytime before shipment FCC compliance FCC ID: 2AW4Z-SPIRITW1

[MrMikeBravo]

Spirit RX7:

Spirit RX7 is brand new Receiver for R/C aircrafts featuring top-notch technology in one extraordinary packageǃ

It can be connected to any model, including all Spirit units offering full Integration with Wave Ecosystem. Receiver

• Spirit Wave 2.4Ghz full-range telemetry receiver
• Full featured 30+ channels available
• Blazing fast 333 Hz transmission
• High interference immunity
• BEC Voltage measurement

Features

• Gold plated PCB with Pb-Free soldering
• 7x Servo Outputs
• Reverse Polarity Protection
• 2x 20cm Full-range antennas
• Max. output power: 30 dBm
• Receiver sensitivity: -106 dBm
• Suitable for all Spirit units
• Support for Spirit RX, PWM, S-BUS, SRXL protocols

Package Content

• Spirit RX7
• Bind Plug

Specifications

• Material: ABS Chasis
• Dimension: 39.4x25.6x10.7mm, weight: 11g
• Power supply: 3 - 15V
• Operating temperature: -10°C to 50°C

Package Dimension

• Paper Box:120 x 120 x 30 mm

Warranty

• 2 year warranty for the original purchaser

[MrMikeBravo]

Und hier mal noch eine Liste aller Features, welche die Wave "Out of the Box" unterstützt:

Detailed Function List (Out of the Box)

• Introduction Wizard
• Model Creation Wizard
• Screen Locking Protection
• Automatic Screen Light
  • Radio can light up display when motion is detected
• Widget Based menu
  • Variety of Widgets for all kind of purposes
• Attitude Viewer
• Telemetry Viewer
• Event Log Viewer
• Flight Modes
  • Individual Name
  • Priority
  • Delay
  • Configurable Voice Output
• Receiver
  • Info
  • Voltage Measurement
  • Output Mapping
  • Failsafe Confguration
• Model Checking
  • Radio can automatically distinguish running model
• Throttle
  • Up to 9-point Curve
  • Adjustable Throttle Hold
• Model Type – Helicopter
  • Innovative Spirit Setup Wizard
  • Swashplate Mixing for Flybared models
  • Collective Pitch
    • Up to 9-point Curve
• Model Type – Plane
  • Support for all possible Wing configurations
  • Landing Gears
  • Multiple Motors
• Timers
• Gyro
  • Output from assigned Input
  • Specific Value for each Switch Position
  • Value per Flight Mode
• Exponentials
  • Aileron, Elevator, Rudder
• Strightforward Channel Configuration for non-Spirit models
• Trim Mode
  • Support for Trimming when flying
  • 2 different Trim Modes
  • Faster and Safer than with hardware Trim buttons
  • No need to move your fingers from Sticks
• Spirit Integration
  • Accessing Spirit Heli and Spirit Aero parameters directly
  • No extra interface or hardly reachable menus
  • Everything is tightly integrated and available immediately
  • All Spirit parameters available
  • No tinkering with a Channels anymore
• Adjustable Functions
  • RealTime Spirit Tuning
  • Rescue and Stabilisation modes
• GeoLink
  • Online Map View
• Configuration of all parameters
• ESC Setup
  • Configuration of all ESC parameters
  • Adjustable at any moment
• Alarms
  • Warning – Unlimited alarms for any unexpected conditions, including telemetry
  • Reporting – Periodic Output of selected variables, including telemetry
    • Support for your own variables
• Mixing
  • Support for all kind of mixers
• Statistics
  • Surmized Data from each Flight with peaks
• Flight Log
  • Logging of all Radio and Telemetry variables
• Event Log
  • Viewer for any Event Log in RealTime from a Spirit unit
• Battery Manager
  • Manual or Automatic Battery selection
  • Battery Counters for each Model
• Trainer
  • Trainer and Student mode with selectable permissions for each Channel
  • Wireless Mode with Full Range support between pilots
  • Quick Share of Model from a nearby Wave Radio
• Spirit Remote Control
  • Revolutionary Interface for accessing your Radio
  • No need to install any software
  • Can work with any Operating System
  • Supported by any smart Device, including Smartphones
  • Backup, Loading of all Models or Logs
  • Uploading Media Files
• Quick Share
  • Spirit Wave radios can share full model settings wirelessly in one click
• Theme
  • Color pallete for UI
• Image
  • Custom Image for each Model
• App Store
  • You can install new Apps to your Wave radio in a one click
  • All Apps are designed purely for Wave ecosystem
• Updating
  • One click update even without rebooting device
  • Wireless Radio Update in just 15 seconds with no other software needed
  • Virtually unlimited features
  • Thanks to our in-house Spirit OS literaly any new feature can be added
• File Manager
• Spirit Online Support
  • Embedded app for helping you at any moment, directly from your radio
• Media Player
  • Play your favorite MP3 or Online Radio when flying
• Connection
  • Spirit Wave can connect to 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz WiFi networks
  • It can safely store unlimited WiFi networks
• Scripting Support
  • Complex support for QML scripting
  • Much more powerful than Lua

[Joh]

Verstehe ich das richtig , dass das neue W1 FBL nur Sinn macht wenn man auch die Wave benutzt ?

[MrMikeBravo]

Verstehe ich das richtig , dass das neue W1 FBL nur Sinn macht wenn man auch die Wave benutzt ?

Nein, das steht in der Liste der Features: Third-party receiver supported – Wave receiver can be turned off.

Und im Spirit-Wiki steht: It can be used also with all third party external receivers known to work with Spirit units.

Es sollte also kein Problem sein das W1 mit anderen Empfängern zu nutzen.

[alexbs]

Das W1 hat ja einen Empfänger, der ist aber nicht mit Jeti kompatibel?

[MrMikeBravo]

Und das hatte ich übersehen, die Spirit Wave (nicht die Pro Version) ist auch schon vorbestellbar.

Die gibt es für 1207,55 €.

Und hier nochmal die Unterschiede zwischen Wave und Wave Pro:

• Spirit Wave Pro
  • Full Aluminium Chasis
  • Weight: 1110g +/- 40g
  • Free Switch Replacement Program (Up to 10 pcs)
  • Free AG01 Stick Replacement Program (Up to 1pc, not set)
  • All Switches, Gimbals shipped by Spirit System directly to customer as per request (eligible within Warranty Period)
  • 30GB Spirit Cloud Service for Model, Log Data backup
  • Secondary WiFi Antenna
  • Available in 2 colors (Black, Grey)

• Spirit Wave
  • Main Body: Plastic
  • 1GB Spirit Cloud Service for Model, Log Data backup
  • Weight: 865g +/- 10g
  • Available in 3 colors (Red, Black, Grey)

[MrMikeBravo]

Das W1 hat ja einen Empfänger, der ist aber nicht mit Jeti kompatibel?

Genau, der läuft mit dem Spirit RF Protokoll (30 Kanäle, 2.4Ghz, 333Hz, 3ms, O-QPSK FHSS) und ist meines Wissens nach nicht mit Jeti kompatibel.

[Drachentöter]

Ob sich Tomas einen gefallen tut, für Umsteiger auf die Wave u. Besitzer eines Sprit2+ GT keinen Mini Longe Rage Empfänger anzubieten. Statt dessen einen 7 Kanal Klopper Empfänger, aber der Markt wird es zeigen.

[nightfarmer]

Ob sich Tomas einen gefallen tut, für Umsteiger auf die Wave u. Besitzer eines Sprit2+ GT keinen Mini Longe Rage Empfänger anzubieten. Statt dessen einen 7 Kanal Klopper Empfänger, aber der Markt wird es zeigen.

Seh ich auch so. Hab mich auch gewundert über den 7 Kanal Empfänger.

Ich hätte mir einen Mini Empfänger erwartet der perfekt auf das Spirit drauf passt, einfach zum drauf kleben, gerade so groß dass die LED noch sichtbar bleibt. Hab ich auch so mit meinem HoTT Empfänger gemacht, klappt perfekt. Also einfach einen Summensignal-Mini Long Range Empfänger. Aber vllt. kommt da noch was.

Zudem fehlt mir auch ein Temperatur Sensor. Ok, bei uns in AT und DE fliegen nicht mehr so viele Nitro, aber gerade in den Staaten schaut das noch etwas anders aus, und alle anderen (Jeti, V-Bar, Spektrum, Futaba, Graupner) haben auch einen Temp.-Sensor im Angebot.

Was auch ginge wäre ja eine Integration so wie beim Brain, da kann man den Sensor von Jeti oder Futaba am Telemetrie Port verwenden, funktioniert auch super (ich hab z.b. den Jeti MT300 dran).

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[MrMikeBravo]

Die ersten Wave / Wave Pro Vorbestellungen werden scheinbar ab dieser Woche ausgeliefert.

Da bin ich dann mal auf die ersten Erfahrungsberichte gespannt.🧐

[Goblin]

Jetzt mal von der Technik abgesehen.... das obenrum beschnittene Gehäuse gefällt mir überhaupt nicht. Soll das irgendwelche technischen Vorteile bringen ? Oder eher in der Haptik / Ergonomie. Den Spitznamen "Neandertaler" hat sie jedenfalls schon mal weg